KCU Podcast

Discover how to live as everyday disciple-makers in Kansas City and beyond. Through real stories, practical tools, and inspiring conversations, we equip you to Get to Know KCU, Train as Missionaries, and Multiply Disciple-Makers. Join us as we explore what it means to bring the beauty, justice, and Good News of Jesus to where you live, work, learn, and play.

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Experience, Imagination, and Hope with BrianJames McMahon

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian is joined by BrianJames McMahon for a conversation that moves beneath strategy and into formation. Together, they explore the relationship between experience, imagination, and hope, and why so many efforts toward disciple-making and microchurch life stall when imagination has not first been cultivated. The conversation revolves around the idea that we cannot hope for what we cannot imagine, and we cannot imagine what we have not experienced. Drawing from lived moments, theological insight, and the everyday challenges of movemental leadership, this conversation invites us to reconsider how change actually happens. Rather than trying to convince or compel, they point toward the slow, intentional work of creating experiences and reflecting on them, allowing imagination to grow and hope to take root.

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Microchurch Conference: Jerry from the E-2 Hub

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian sits down with Jerry from the E-2 Hub to continue reflecting on the recent Microchurch Conference and what God is doing through disciple-makers in diverse and often transient contexts. Jerry shares his story of encountering Jesus through the ordinary faithfulness of his uncle, and how that moment reshaped his understanding of calling and ministry. As a military chaplain, Jerry reflects on the shift from trying to force ministry into familiar forms to embracing a simpler, relational way of joining Jesus, leading to multiplying communities in unexpected places. He also shares how the KC Underground family has provided grounding across constant change, and encourages listeners to stay attentive to the Holy Spirit, trusting that simple obedience can have far-reaching impact.

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Microchurch Conference: Morgan Greer

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian sits down with Morgan Greer during the recent Microchurch Conference to reflect on what stood out while gathering with microchurch leaders and networks from across the country and around the world. Morgan shares how hearing diverse stories of disciple-making, welcoming the stranger, and experimenting with new expressions of mission reminded him of the freedom and beauty of following Jesus in creative, contextual ways. He also reflects on moving through fear and hostility toward genuine hospitality, what it means to stay present to the work of the Holy Spirit, and how ordinary faithfulness in places like juvenile detention centers can become a meaningful witness to the kingdom. Morgan encourages listeners to keep listening to Jesus, keep experimenting, and keep taking simple steps of obedience toward the people and places God is putting on their hearts.

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Microchurch Conference: Bre Wiebe

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian sits down with Bre Wiebe during the recent Microchurch Conference in Tampa, Florida to reflect on what she learned alongside hundreds of leaders exploring the theme of hospitality. Bre shared how the call to “call the party” and create space at the table is reshaping her vision for welcoming neighbors, loving the stranger, and practicing everyday hospitality in her own home and neighborhood. She also reflected on the courage required to step out in faith, whether inviting people to the table, welcoming the work of the Holy Spirit in gatherings, or moving past fear to engage the people God places around us. Bre encourages listeners to rediscover the power of simple hospitality and to take one step toward welcoming the stranger in their own everyday lives.

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Microchurch Conference: Chris and Renee

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian sits down with Chris and Renee Renshaw during the recent Microchurch Conference in Tampa, Florida to reflect on what they’re hearing and experiencing alongside hundreds of leaders exploring the theme of hospitality. Chris and Renee share insights about welcoming God into everyday life, practicing hospitality within marriage and community, and discovering how simple acts of presence can create spaces of belonging in places like Raytown. They also reflect on what it means to stay faithful in the rhythms of disciple-making, learning to show grace to yourself in the process, and how creating “living room” spaces in a city can open new pathways for connection, community, and mission.

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Microchurch Conference: Josh Jackaway

In this episode of the KC Underground podcast, Brian interviews Josh Jackaway during the recent Microchurch Conference as he shares his journey of cultivating radical hospitality and authentic community through microchurch rhythms and years with Apartment Life. Josh reflects on learning to practice simple, relational hospitality in everyday life, and how welcoming the stranger can transform neighbors into family and open new pathways for disciple-making.

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Simplicity Over Complexity

In this episode, Cory and Brian explore the profound impact of simplicity in disciple-making. Join us as we discuss how returning to the basics can enhance the effectiveness of disciple-making efforts. Discover practical insights and tools, like the "eight and a half by 11" exercise, that help streamline and focus our mission. Whether you're leading a microchurch or engaging in personal discipleship, learn how simplicity can be a powerful catalyst for growth and multiplication.

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Planting the Gospel - Reproducible Gospel Language

In this episode, Rob Wegner discusses the significance of clear and reproducible gospel language within the context of microchurches. He emphasizes the centrality of the gospel in the life of believers, illustrating how it serves as a transformative power and a new operating system for engaging with life. Wegner introduces the concept of fractals in faith, suggesting that simplicity in the gospel can lead to profound understanding and disciple-making. He also shares insights on the 'saved wholes gospel' and the importance of integrating the gospel into all aspects of life.

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Planting the Gospel - The Missionary Pathway

In this episode, we’re revisiting a video series we originally released with Exponential on how microchurches plant the gospel incarnationally in their context. We’ll walk through the heart of the gospel, why it’s the power of God for salvation, and how ordinary people can embody, demonstrate, and share it in everyday life. This series is framed by the Missionary Pathway, a five-phase framework for making disciples and seeing microchurches emerge, and focuses on the third phase: planting the gospel. You’ll also hear practical tools for sharing the good news in real conversations and everyday rhythms.

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mDNA: Liminality and Communitas

In this episode, Cory and Brian explore the mDNA: liminality-commuinitas, two words that definitely sound made up, but aren’t. These two sociological terms describe the work that happens in disciple-making movements when we “leave what we’ve known, enter a difficult new reality in order to arrive in a new space” (liminality) and the deep family bonds we form as we go through these difficult spaces with others (communitas). We emphasize the importance of embracing discomfort, rather than waiting on it and offer a simple practice for disciple-makers and microchurches to consider engaging to more fully embrace liminal spaces in order to receive the great joy of communitas.

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Healing, Disciple-Making, and the Glasshouse Hub

In this episode, Brian and Cory interview Brandon Kelly, one of the directors of the Glass House Hub. Brandon shares the history of this group of disciple-makers and microchurches that are primarily in Independence, MO, but also how their Hub is now coaching leaders well beyond that one geographic area. They are truly embodying the principles from Jeremiah 29 that tell us to build houses, plant gardens, and seek the shalom of the city in which you live. Brandon also shares the challenges faced in their mission, the impact of the disciple-maker pathway, and the future aspirations for the hub.

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The Story of Fount Hub

In this episode, Cory and Brian interview three directors of the Fount Hub, Lori Roy, Amber Jackson, and Jay Cull. We’re continuing on in our series of introducing the different Hubs of the Kansas City Underground, hearing their personal stories, the emergence of their Hub identity, and a few personal stories of what’s happening within their part of the network. Amber, Jay, and Lori share about the importance of prayer and prophetic guidance within their Hub, and the distinctive way their microchurches have emerged and multiplied. They also highlight the rhythms and structures that support their Hub, emphasizing the importance of persons of peace relationships and shared experiences in their journey.

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What Does a Microchurch Look Like?

In this conversation, Brian and Cory talk about microchurches, emphasizing their identity as spiritual families rather than programs or buildings. We want to offer some answers around the question, "What does a microchurch look like?" and "What are their rhythms?" So we'll get into the conversation of our ecclesial minimums of worship, community, and mission. And we'll give you an overview of a couple of tools we use to coach leaders on facilitating the "worship" component of a microchurch. The conversation also highlights the need to demystify traditional church structures and focus on simple, relational discipleship.

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Discovery Bible Study and DBSGroups.com

In this conversation, Brian and Cory explore the tool of Discovery Bible Studies and talk about the significance of DBS in disciple-making movements. We cannot overemphasize the simplicity and reproducibility of this tool as we think about movement. We also highlight dbsgroups.com as a valuable tool for facilitating DBS. This site is easy to access and can be used to facilitate discovery groups or used by microchurches to facilitate their gatherings. We'll show you how to use the site and coach you through a general overview of discovery Bible studies. "DBS is simple, reproducible, and does not require an expert. The goal is to help people discover Jesus through scripture."

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Citywide Collaboration

In this episode, Brian and Cory explore the themes of collaboration and community building in our city, drawing parallels to NASA's successful model of teamwork and goal-oriented projects as documented in the monograph "The Flat Org Chart" by Dan Pallotta. This is part tow of the conversation we started last week, talking about the importance of restoring the spiritual soil of cities, overcoming barriers to collaboration, and practical steps for fostering unity among various organizations and individuals. This isn't just for high level leaders. It's also for everyday leaders making disciples and leading microchurches as well. We have to think about collaboration at every level if we're going to see the gospel flourish in our city.

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Cultivating Kingdom Ecosystems

In this episode, Brian and Cory explore the idea of cultivating kingdom ecosystems. The truth is, this is a random one-off episode that we felt pressed to record after discussing the film The Biggest Little Farm, a documentary about sustainable farming. This film, that was all about the significance of biodiversity in restoration, provided so many affirmations that pursuing the smaller way through disciple-making and microchurches is how Jesus will bring the Kingdom in a city to restore the soil. We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed processing this one.

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Moving from Discovery Group to Microchurch

In this episode, Cory and Brian walk through a tool called "Moving from a Discovery Group to a Microchurch." This has been a helpful tool for groups of people as they identify and affirm themselves as a church based on the activities and characteristics described in Acts 2:36-47. We want to emphasize that church is not a program, but an identity, and that this tool helps groups understand what it means to live into that identity. We also discuss how this tool can be used with different group sizes and contexts, and how it can help groups think through multiplication as well.

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