All Change: Unlocking Kingdom Potential. A Conversation With Rich Robinson

Apr 22

Episode Summary

In this episode, Brian Johnson and Rich Robinson explore the themes of church transformation and unlocking Kingdom potential through Rich's book 'All Change'. We discuss the importance of recognizing and embracing disruption, the four phases of transformation (dream, discover, design, deploy), and the practical steps for disciple makers. Rich shares his journey and insights on how to navigate change within church communities, emphasizing the need for everyday faithfulness and the significance of individual contributions to a larger movement.

Key Themes & Takeaways

1. Meet Rich Robinson

Based in Edinburgh, Scotland, Rich is a global coach to movements, networks, and churches, with roots in 3DM and missional community formation in Sheffield, England.
Husband, father of three teenagers, and an early disciple of Jesus through a microchurch community.
Works with KC Underground and others to catalyze movement in cities and organizations.

2. Why This Book? Why Now?

The book helps individuals, teams, and organizations unlock potential in a disrupted world.
It offers a framework to process cultural, political, spiritual, and organizational shifts while staying anchored in Jesus' way of disciple-making.
Rich’s motivation is deeply personal—rooted in being a dad, a disciple, and someone passionate about seeing church become movement again.

3. The Four Phases of Change

Rich outlines a movement journey through four phases, modeled on Jesus' relationship with the disciples:

Dream: Embrace disruption and ignite kingdom imagination for a better future.
Discover: Prototype, test, and learn through hands-on experimentation.
Design: Develop tools, frameworks, and principles that can scale and adapt.
Deploy: Release others into mission, multiplying leaders and gospel impact.

4. Practical Insights for Disciple-Makers

Start with prayerful attention: Where is God already at work in your neighborhood or network?
Pay attention to pain and passion—where is the need? What stirs your heart?
Innovation begins in listening, dreaming, and starting small—don’t be afraid to experiment.
Real transformation is simple, scalable, and Spirit-led.

5. A Word for Movement Leaders

Define your dream in vivid, faith-filled language. Picture a transformed city—not just more leaders, but deeper healing, justice, and renewal.
Multiply what’s already fruitful through design thinking and simple tools.
The church must become ordinary people living extraordinary lives of mission in everyday spaces.

Final Thoughts

Rich closes with a powerful encouragement: What KC Underground is doing is both beautifully normal and deeply significant. It’s a paradox of ordinary faithfulness and global impact. Keep doing the small, faithful, everyday work of disciple-making—and trust God for the ripple effect.